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10-13-2008, 11:20 AM
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ZR1 happens to the GT-R: GT-R production stopped
We’ve been hearing the rumours in the Japanese motoring press lately that this might happen and as of this week it is confirmed. Nissan has instructed dealers to temporarily halt taking orders on the new Japanese supercar - the Nissan GT-R. When ordering will recommence, at this stage, is unclear. This is for Nissan Japan only and we’re not sure if it applies to other regions right now.
Exactly the reasoning behind this is not given right now, if the Tochigi Factory production line has also been halted is also not known. Rumours regarding the current “price hike” for materials being the reason is also not verified.
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http://www.gtrblog.com/index.php/200...-r-orde?blog=4
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10-13-2008, 12:20 PM
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Except behind velvet ropes or on a turntable. I have never even seen a ZR1 or a GT-R.
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10-13-2008, 12:36 PM
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Transmission reliability problems maybe?
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10-13-2008, 03:09 PM
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Carsumer Advocacy? Nissan refuses to replace GT-R owner's busted transmission
A member of the North American GT-R Owner's Club forums started a thread recently in which he tells about dropping off his Nissan GT-R at the dealership when he began hearing loud noises coming from the rear of the car. The dealership told him that his transmission was toast as a direct result of him turning off the car's VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control) too much, which you have to do in order to use the Launch Control function. The cost to repair the tranny is $20,000 and Nissan won't cover it under warranty since the GT-R owners manual states that damage to the transmission is not covered if it is proven to be the result of using Launch Control with the VDC turned off. In fact, the manual states that the only reason you should turn off VDC is for when you're rocking the vehicle because it's stuck in mud or snow. That's kind of like Nissan saying you should never use the Launch Control function despite the fact it's there.
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10-13-2008, 03:57 PM
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^^ This is what we have been saying would happen from day 1 - but we were shouted down... now it turs out that "We the people" were 100% spot on
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10-13-2008, 06:13 PM
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Wait, why is production being halted again?
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10-13-2008, 07:52 PM
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^Finding another excuse to raise the prices even higher?
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10-13-2008, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by HeilSvenska
^Finding another excuse to raise the prices even higher?
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supply can't outstay demand; so halting production artificially increases demand.
More realistically; I'd guess its because they are selling cars that customers are returning with broken transmissions with some obtuse frequency. Buying a 80-90k car is one thing; spending 20k on fixing the transmission because a "car on jack stands for a year" situation. I'd guess they are working on making it more robust. But what do I know.
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10-13-2008, 11:26 PM
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buy the PDK gearbox design from porsche LOL
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10-14-2008, 09:07 AM
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I wonder why they didn't find this problem during their regular R&D
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10-14-2008, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 5vz-fe
I wonder why they didn't find this problem during their regular R&D
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They did (If my guess is correct) Which is why they told salesmen to tell buyers not to turn off VDC, or use hard launches for fear of breaking warranty. I suspect that there may be more issues with longevity of the transmission regardless of not turning off VDC... Again, this is purely speculation
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10-14-2008, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 5vz-fe
I wonder why they didn't find this problem during their regular R&D
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They spent all their 1,0000's of laps R&D time chasing that Nurburgring time.... forgetting that R&D means Research & Development, not Race-time and Data-aquisition
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