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Old 04-01-2005, 11:18 PM   #31
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not sure if this has been posted before or not, but this vid of the new GTi is sooo damn cool

http://uploads.demonwares.net/VW.wmv
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Old 04-03-2005, 04:56 AM   #32
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Originally Posted by GTO
I saw the R32 golf at the lot, but it cost more than twice what I paid for my car!!! Also the R32 golf is not "true" all time AWD for some reason? but damn quick none the less.
I guess you can say that it's not "true" AWD, it's very biased towards the rear wheels. They just came out with a computer program that can change the car into 100% rear wheel drive. So if you see a golf doing rwd burnouts don't get freaked out.

I've never driven a 2.0L before or a TDi, but i know a lot of them want my stock suspension. I personally think it's soft but a lot of people think it's a great compromise between sport and comfort, but i need more sport dammit.
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Old 04-03-2005, 04:51 PM   #33
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I was under the impression it was usually FWD due to it's transaxle just like in the TT which it got it's AWD system from.
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Old 04-03-2005, 07:17 PM   #34
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The Haldex system is usually FWD, 95% actually, but i was i thinking more towards the racing aspect of it, my mistake, and it seems people have different answers towards what the f/r can change to. And it is the same as TT. To many people still argue whether the Torsen or Haldex system is better, i havn't a clue though.
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Old 04-03-2005, 07:29 PM   #35
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Well my teacher said he really can't tell the difference between his A6 with the Torsen and the TT with the Haldex. One kid I know who is an Audi tech in Schaumburg said he likes the haldex because it is easier to manuever at low speeds e.g. parking.
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Old 04-03-2005, 07:54 PM   #36
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I got this off of vortex which explain the difference pretty well. The Haldex seems to be the better of the two since the power transfer is very smooth from the front wheels to the rear.

Torsen vs. Haldex is a never ending debate....
Here's my view: (from my post somwhere here http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=826959 )

The Haldex vs Torsen debate is, as you might have seen, not new on the vortex - and the arguments are in my opinion usually more emotional than factual. This thread is pretty informative.

The TORSEN system is a permanent allwheel drive system, with the power distributed equally 50% front and 50% back in normal conditions. When wheel slip occurs, power is transferred (up to 75%) to the axle/wheel with the most grip.

The HALDEX equipped car is basically a front wheel drive, having 95% of the power to the front wheels, until slip occurs. The HALDEX reacts in a blink of an eye, and transfers power to the rear.
(The "blink of an eye" reaction of Haldex, is 15 degrees in wheel rotation (fronts slip 15 degrees, and the rears are activated; <math-mode>An Audi TTq has 225/45-17 tires with a circumference of 1993mm. 15 degrees equals -> (1993/360)*15 = 83.04mm -> 3.27 inches of wheel spin</math-mode> )

I believe most people (that would be me too) can't tell the difference between the two systems. A constant 50/50 distribution should in theory make the handling more predictable, but the 25/75 transfer makes the torsen cars "sometimes understeer, sometimes oversteer". In real life this is very easy to learn to live with.

A Haldex car should in theory be very unpredictable, but since the power transfer seems to be pretty seamless, the transition from under- to oversteer should be just as easy to live with. In this thread, the follwing comment is made on "drifing with a Haldex car": The radii of your drifts may be a bit larger, but the drifts are actuall easier to modulate than the Torsen cars, which take a little more practice due to its understeer-oversteer transition.

Volvo AWDs up until MY 2003, has used a viscous (hydraulic) coupling. They introduced HALDEX with their S60AWD, and from MY2003 they use it on all AWD cars. A Swedish car mag did a comparison test to find the "best winter car". The contestant: Volvo S60AWD, Audi A4 3.0 quattro, Jaguar X-type and the BMW 330xi. The overall winner was the Audi due to better quality, but in terms of driving feeling and handling the S60 was ranked first. It was praised for its predictability and "fun factor". The S60R and V70R have a more "aggressive" progamming of the Haldex to create more "sporty" handling characteristics.

The advantage for the car manufacturer is much easier to grasp. The Haldex is cheaper, lighter and it has has a lesser impact on the fuel economy.

Conclusion: different systems with more similarities than one might think.
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Old 04-05-2005, 12:16 AM   #37
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Ye im rolling in a 337 edition gti i actually jsut made a post too about it too. Im saving up some cash for the eip stage 4 turbo kit. In my opionion the aniversary gti's are nice little luxury cars and got exceptional perfomance capabilities.
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Old 04-05-2005, 02:31 PM   #38
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Originally Posted by adamrotor
Ye im rolling in a 337 edition gti i actually jsut made a post too about it too. Im saving up some cash for the eip stage 4 turbo kit. In my opionion the aniversary gti's are nice little luxury cars and got exceptional perfomance capabilities.
I'm about to get the EIP engine mount, but i'm going to stick with the apr stage 3+ because i know that it's amazingly reliable and the set up is very clean. I HATE the fmic's that have the piping going over the engine, it looks like a$$ and it's a bad way to pipe anything. So i need to save up a lot to get the Evo vertical flow fmic. Stay away from cold air intakes by the way, it slows your spoolup with that extra piping, and the air goes up a few 100 degrees when it gets to the turbo anyways, thats what an intercooler is for. (sorry just had to vent because of some idiots on vortex ) But good luck, nice ride.
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