The GTO benchmark.

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Originally Posted by zondaland I expected that a larger capacity engine would be associated with a larger footprint and more weight. Thus a larger engine would compromise overall car design, and a heavier weight would reduce acceleration and cornering speeds. However as you have made clear GM have managed to make the engine more compact than smaller displacement rivals, and weigh less.

So basically you assumed you must know more than the blokes who built it?

But seriously - the misconception that bigger engine capacity is always accompanied by heavier engines is a common one - although no-one jumped on ferrari everytime THEY up the displacement of their V8 and V12 road engines...

Originally Posted by zondaland Exactly how did I say that the car was lacking anything.

Well, you weren't praising GM/Holden for shipping the GTO/Monaro the way the did with it's current engine choices... unless I misread your musings about why they chose an inadiquate power plant.

Originally Posted by zondaland And to answer your last line, why would I want to reiterate what I have just said, for some sort of edification of yourself?

No - simply so you can repeat to yourself as many times as you can that "paper specs and stats out of context are of no use".

I don't critique Ferrari for going the route they did - as the engine they shoehorned ionto the 360 fit their purpose - and helped the package perform at a ceratin level.

But just because performance peers choose a differnet route doesn't make either one wrong.

The say way it would be a pointless waste of time to put the 360 engine in a Z06 and the LS6 into the F-Car - as out of their own context and packaging each is uneffective.

So- again, you repeating yourself would be for YOUR edification - although I would hesititate to equate Chevy/Ford/Ferrari fanaticism with the path to religious enlightentment - but it's a damn close second...

[zondaland]

Maybe you've got nothing better to do than continue an argument that has died, but I do. So I recommend that you build a bridge and get over it. And no, at no point did I assume that I knew more than any of the engineers who designed the LSx engines.

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Originally Posted by zondaland Maybe you've got nothing better to do than continue an argument that has died, but I do. So I recommend that you build a bridge and get over it. And no, at no point did I assume that I knew more than any of the engineers who designed the LSx engines.

OK you pompous punk - if you are unable to detect when the theme/spirit and intent of a respones with 6+ smiling emoticons - as well as numurous attempts to lighten the mood with comments such as "seriously though..." has moved to a lighter not ---- then go screw yourself

My previous response was not an argument or attack or provocation.

It was some light hearted comment/banter and chat (befitting a CHAT forum) on how in context all things are as intended.

Even as in the example I gave with ferrari not being wrong for the route they chose.

You, on the other hand appear hell bent of never having a moment of light fun online ever.

Bah... your problem not mine

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[zondaland]

Yep, just here to have an all in brawl as much as possible. Gonna do all I can to take you down, in fact I'm gonna get real cut when I have any argument online, I'll even come and you. I'm gonna hunt you down. :snipersmile: :2gunfire:

Fair enough, the last post was a bit wide of the mark, and not really appropriate, so I'll say I'm sory.

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Originally Posted by zondaland Yep, just here to have an all in brawl as much as possible. Gonna do all I can to take you down, in fact I'm gonna get real cut when I have any argument online, I'll even come and you. I'm gonna hunt you down. :snipersmile: :2gunfire: Fair enough, the last post was a bit wide of the mark, and not really appropriate, so I'll say I'm sory.

NO need to say "sorry" - just smile and flick me off.. :fist:

[zondaland]

:fist:

Happy?

[RC45]

Originally Posted by zondaland :fist: Happy?

There - now that feels much better, doesn't it?

[zondaland]

yea, whatever, I'm still gonna hunt you down, I know what bank you're staking out, don't think that you're gonnal get away with it this time, I'm gonnal be there... :snipersmile:

you just wait...