Haha...for me, being a NorCal guy all my life, everything past Monterey is broken down into Bakersfield area, LA, and San Diego. Palmdale is pretty far away, but everything over Grapvine is "LA" to me, until you get close to San Diego...it's just easier to clump everything together down there, since I'm not really familiar with the geography, and neither are most people up here in NorCal.