Ford GT vs Skyline Z-Tune

[J-San]

Wich one of these cars do you think is faster

a) in straight line acceleration

and

b) around a track


This question came across my mind when watching to this month's Best Motoring International episode. Both cars are featured, but they're not directly compared.

About this comparo, in a straight line the Ford can be faster, because it's more powerful (550hp vs 500hp) and lighter (1550kg vs 1600kg), but the Skyline has much shorter gear ratios.
In what concerns to track performance, I think the Skyline can have some advantage, because it was built to excel on the track, and probably handles better. Here are some figures from this month's BMI:


New Fuji Speedway Circuit:
Nissan Skyline Z-Tune - 1:58,04 (276 Km/h on the straight)
Porsche 911 Carrera S - 2:01,18 (246 Km/h)
Honda NSX Type-R - 2:01,96 (---)
Subaru Impreza STi Spec-C - 2:02,87 (231 Km/h)
Nissan 350Z Nismo - 2:07,28 (220 Km/h)
Honda S2000 - 2:08,96 (213 Km/h)


Willow Springs Road Course:
Ford GT - 1:31,57
Nissan 350Z Nismo - 1:33,87

Willow Springs Full Course:
Ford GT - 1:37,01
Nissan 350Z Nismo - 1:48,13



What do you think?

[mindgam3]

Ford GT easily. IMO, skylines are way too over-rated

[Honda_PoD]

Well straight line Skyline. Its near 10s. Around a road course? hmmmm I think the GT will be easier and feel better to drive fast. The skyline seems more of a one trick pony IMO. But i would like to see them both around Nurgburgh ring.

[J-San]

Hmm, I don't think the Skyline Z-Tune, with 500hp and 1600Kg can do the 1/4mile in the 10's. More likely in the low 12's, high 11's. I believe the GT is faster in a straight line, my big doubt is on a track.

[Honda_PoD]

its been tested it runs 10.9 in the 1/4 the GT is running high 11s

[nthfinity]

how many crazy hard launches can the 500 hp z-tune skyline handle? Ford's GT can still do it on command (one i was in with 29,000 miles).

the GT is definately going to be faster on a track... lower CG, better weight distrabution, more predictable damping, gobs of torque that i wouldn't be so sure the skyline would have.

[Evil-ution]

i'd say the ford gt is fasteron track, i know the ford gt is considerd as an exotic car but its a supercar killer! on TopGears track it has beaten both the Lambo Murcielago and the koenigsegg CC, its much faster then both the F430 and the gallardo!!

in a straight line the skyline would be like 0.8 sec faster, but on track i think the ford gt will bite the skylines head off..

[5vz-fe]

Depends....on a straight line do u mean 0-60? or 1/4 or 0-120?

I think they will be quite close at the track, but I am leaning towards the skyline.

[SilviaEvo]

im going with the Skyline cuz i love that car. even before all the shitty ricers gayed up the name.

[RAMMIUS]

I`ll take the Skyline , maybe slower in a straightline , but on a track that super awd traction sistem could help the Skyline to get better times than the GT

So Skyline for me

[SFDMALEX]

Skyline is ghey!

The car drives you.

The GT is a drivers car, you drive it.

Contest won in favour of the Ford.

Skyline can suck it :fist:

[Honda_PoD]

ok come on guys, the facts are this.

NISMO Z-TUNE:

SPECIFICATIONS


Base Model Skyline GT-R (BNR34) V-spec (used)

Body Color Z-tune Silver (KY0), special color for R34GT-R Z-tune only.

Engine Model RB26DETT Modified spec, "Z2" (Z-tune concept engine spec.2)

Engine Type Water-cooling in-line 6 cylinder DOHC

Bore & Stroke 87mm x 77.7mm

Compression Ratio 8.5 : 1

Displacement 2,771 cc

Max Power over 368 kw (500ps)

Max Torque over 540N.m (55kg.m)

Weight 1,600 kg



SPECIFICATION SHEET

ENGINE CYLINDER HEAD Camshaft (Z-tune Exclusive)
Metal Head Gasket
Special Combustion Chamber shape & Volume Adjustment
Enlarged Port & Grind machining
Special Relief Machining on camshaft
Exclusive Rocker cover with Z-tune special color.
CYLINDER BLOCK GT Engine Block (Strength & Rigidity Uprated)
Forged Piston (Z-tune exclusive)
GT Crank Shaft (Forged + Fillet Roll Machining)
GT Connecting Rod spec 2 ( I Shaped, SNCM Material )
Oil Pan Baffle Plate
Engine Components GT Collector Tank (special shape)
Turbo Charger (made by IHI, Exclusive for Z-tune)
Exhaust Outlet (special shape)
Exhaust Manifold specially machined to remove gap & stiffener processing.
Cooling Twin Oil Cooler (exclusive for Z-tune)
Aluminum Radiator (Cooling performance upgraded)
Intercooler (Cooling performance upgraded)
Intercooler piping
Fueling High-Flow Fuel Injector
High-Flow Fuel Pump
Engine Control ECM (exclusive for Z-tune)
Exhaust WELDINA NE-1 Titanium (Fr tube is stainless steel)
Body Shell Door Surrounding Extra Spot Welding
Others Hood Ridge Reinforcement on Front Strut Upper part
CFRP Reinforcement at Center Tunnel etc.
Suspension Shocks & Springs Damp Force Adjustable in 3 variations. Ride-Height Adjustable, SACHS Suspension basis, exclusive for Z-tune
Stabilizer Bars Spring Constant Upgraded
Bushings Less Friction Hard Rubber Bushings
Wheel LM GT4 GT500 Model Black Color 18 x 9.5J (Exclusive for Z-tune)
Tire Bridgestone POTENZA RE01R (265/35-18)
Powertrain Clutch Twinplate Clutch (COPPERMIX TWIN)
Differentials Front: Mechanical L.S.D.
Rear: Active L.S.D. * Final Gear Ratio: 3.545
ETC Control Unit (Exclusive for Z-tune)
Propeller Shaft Carbon Fiber Propeller Shaft (Exclusive for Z-tune)
Brakes Rotor & Caliper Front: 365mm dia, 2-piece, Ventilated Disc + Mono-block 6 piston Caliper
Rear: 355mm dia, 1-piece, Ventilated Disc + Forged 4 Piston Caliper
Brake Pad & Hose Z-tune Special Brake Pad + Stainless Steel Meshed Hose
Exterior Front Bumper New Design Type CFRP (Exclusive for Z-tune)
Front Under Panel CFRP (Exclusive for Z-tune)
Front Fender CFRP Blister Fender (Exclusive for Z-tune)
Side Skirt ABS Resin
Rear Spoiler Flap CFRP
Interior Steering Wheel Air-Bag Type
Seat Uprated Trim (Exclusive for Z-tune)
Door Trim Uprated Trim (Exclusive for Z-tune)
Speedometer 320km Display, White Background
MFD Version II Type


Ford GT:

Wheel Base (in): 106.7
Overall Length (in): 182.8
Overall Height at curb (in): 44.3
Overall Width (in): 76.9
Front Track (in): 63
Rear Track (in): 63.7
Weight Distribution (ft/rear): 43/57
Overall Shadow (sq ft): 96.8
Approach Angle (deg): 9.2
Departure Angle (deg): 14.0

Seating Capacity: 2
Leg Room (in): 44.6
Head Room (in): 35.4
Shoulder Room (in): 57.7
Hip Room: 57.8
Passenger Volume (cu ft): 52.8
Interior Volume Index(cu ft): 54.4

Engine Type: DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder, supercharged V-8
Engine Displacement (L): 5.4
Bore/Stroke (mm): 90.2x105.8
Displacement (cu in/cc): 330/5409
Compression Ratio (in/mm): 8.4:1
Material: Aluminum block
Horsepower @ RPM: 550@6,500
Torque @ RPM (lb ft): 500@3,750
Horsepower Specific Output (hp/liter): 101.9
Torque Specific Output (lb ft/liter): 92.6
Recommended Fuel: 91 octane (premium)
Fuel System: Sequential multi-port electronic fuel injection -(SEFI) with dual injectors per cylinder
Oil Capacity with Filter (quarts): 12
Usable Fuel Capacity (gal): 17.5

Type 6-speed manual
Gear Ratios 1 - 2.61
2 - 1.71
3 - 1.23
4 - 0.94
5 - 0.77
6 - 0.63
Reverse - 3.135

Final Drive Ratio 3.36:1
Gear Synchronization 1 - Triple
2 - Triple
3 - Triple
4 - Triple
5 - Double
6 - Double

Chassis/Steering/Brakes
Drivetrain Layout Mid-engine, Rear-wheel drive
Front Suspension Double Wishbone
Rear Suspension Double Wishbone
Steering Type Rack-and-Pinion
Steering Ratio 17:1
Turns Lock-to-Lock 2.7
Turning Circle (Curb-to-Curb) 40 ft.
Brake System Vacuum Power Assist
Front Brakes (in) 14.0
Rear Brakes (in) 13.2




Its in favor of the Skyline.

[GTO]

Dig up the Nuremburg times, I'd say GTR, AWD and clever traction control.

[nthfinity]

Its in favor of the Skyline.

why? because it has more mentioned aftermarket parts? duh! the GT isnt aftermarket

[Honda_PoD]

Originally Posted by nthfinity Its in favor of the Skyline. why? because it has more mentioned aftermarket parts? duh! the GT isnt aftermarket

aftermarket, meh, its a better car. its more suited to run hard. not to be a mantel piece.