Uk gun laws, what the heck is wrong with this picture?

[graywolf624]

Gun laws alert targets owners OWNERS of self-contained air cartridge guns were told today they would face a minimum of five years’ imprisonment if they failed to get a firearms certificate by the end of this month. The tough new measures come as part of a government crackdown on the weapons. Failure to secure a firearms certificate will lead to the new five-year mandatory minimum sentence for illegal possession of a prohibited firearm introduced under the Criminal Justice Act 2003.

So they are going to throw people in jail for 5 years if they don't register their bb guns? I understand the premise for gun control(even if I don't agree with it), but isn't this a tad excessive? Its not like your going to hold someone up with a bb gun..

[SFDMALEX]

Whata fuck is this world turning into? This is just plain retarted. They got nothing else to do but come up with this fucked up shit???

[gis]

Originally Posted by graywolf624 Gun laws alert targets owners OWNERS of self-contained air cartridge guns were told today they would face a minimum of five years’ imprisonment if they failed to get a firearms certificate by the end of this month. The tough new measures come as part of a government crackdown on the weapons. Failure to secure a firearms certificate will lead to the new five-year mandatory minimum sentence for illegal possession of a prohibited firearm introduced under the Criminal Justice Act 2003. Its not like your going to hold someone up with a bb gun..

beleive me they do,that has happened quite a few times here in the UK to my knowledge,about a year ago a post office here got held up for cash with a BB shotgun

[nthfinity]

oh my god...... mabey more people should be allowed to have guns out there... its not like its the us with 10,000+ gun deaths per year, vs. canada with only 150ish....

[RC45]

Originally Posted by gis Originally Posted by graywolf624 Gun laws alert targets owners OWNERS of self-contained air cartridge guns were told today they would face a minimum of five years’ imprisonment if they failed to get a firearms certificate by the end of this month. The tough new measures come as part of a government crackdown on the weapons. Failure to secure a firearms certificate will lead to the new five-year mandatory minimum sentence for illegal possession of a prohibited firearm introduced under the Criminal Justice Act 2003. Its not like your going to hold someone up with a bb gun.. beleive me they do,that has happened quite a few times here in the UK to my knowledge,about a year ago a post office here got held up for cash with a BB shotgun

THat;s the beauty of Texas - I would like to see the poor fuck try hold up a place with a BB Gun...

The United Kingdom (and many other "gun free" countries) has proven the saying "outlaw guns, and only outlaws will have guns" to be very very true.

[BADMIHAI]

The United Kingdom (and many other "gun free" countries) has proven the saying "outlaw guns, and only outlaws will have guns" to be very very true.

All I know, is the UK has very low crime rates. Hell....more people are shot in the U.S. every year, than there are in the rest of the (civilized) world combined.

BTW: 5 years for a BB gun is total bullshit!

[gis]

there are some BB guns that are pretty realistic,i had a sig sauer P228 (i think the name was) that was full metal and weight of the real thing.if sum1 walked into the bank or sumthin with one i sure wouldnt want to challenge him to stop,lol incase it was real

[ssafal89]

I know ay i dunknow whats wrong with these ppl they should start thinking right

[RC45]

Originally Posted by BADMIHAI The United Kingdom (and many other "gun free" countries) has proven the saying "outlaw guns, and only outlaws will have guns" to be very very true. All I know, is the UK has very low crime rates. Hell....more people are shot in the U.S. every year, than there are in the rest of the (civilized) world combined. BTW: 5 years for a BB gun is total bullshit!

Actually the UK was 2nd behind the USA in crime in industrialized nations about 4 years ago - who knows if it any better today *shrug*

[SFDMALEX]

Hehe...I can realize someone trying to rob a store in Texas with a BB...you'll have some crazy hick owner stick a 12gauge in your mouth...then you realize that his children are shoving their M16 up your ass....

[graywolf624]

"about a year ago a post office here got held up for cash with a BB shotgun"
Thats sad. Who the hell would be scared of a bb gun. They may sting.. but walking in with a steak knife would have about as much a correlation.


"All I know, is the UK has very low crime rates. Hell....more people are shot in the U.S. every year, than there are in the rest of the (civilized) world combined. "

Actually.. The UK has a higher violent crime rate per capita then the US. In addition to as said above:

Actually the UK was 2nd behind the USA in crime in industrialized nations about 4 years ago - who knows if it any better today *shrug*

"According to a recent UN study, England and Wales have the highest crime rate and worst record for "very serious" offences of the 18 industrial countries surveyed.
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"But despite, or because, of this, violent crime in America has been plummeting for 10 consecutive years, even as British violence has been rising. By 1995 English rates of violent crime were already far higher than America's for every major violent crime except murder and rape. "
"You are now six times more likely to be mugged in London than New York."
Canada and Australia also have an increasing violent crime problem as compared to US's decreasing one.

[RC45]

:shock:

[graywolf624]

Another side point. The lowest crime rate in europe has been switzerland. (They certainly aren't practicing gun control).

The other low one is japan.. Which is increasing actually.. This is actually attributed to Punishment, not gun control.

I don't want to make this a political post on gun control.. Well other then pointing out how moronic 5 years in jail for bb gun or paintball gun sounds. That being said, remember the UK and Australia are not the poster childs for gun control.

A quick google resulted in many articles with statistics. This one seems to gather alot of them from one study together.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/pr...TICLE_ID=21902
"Britain, Australia top U.S.
in violent crime
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"Law enforcement and anti-crime activists regularly claim that the United States tops the charts in most crime-rate categories, but a new international study says that America's former master -- Great Britain -- has much higher levels of crime.

The International Crime Victims Survey, conducted by Leiden University in Holland, found that England and Wales ranked second overall in violent crime among industrialized nations.

Twenty-six percent of English citizens -- roughly one-quarter of the population -- have been victimized by violent crime. Australia led the list with more than 30 percent of its population victimized.

The United States didn't even make the "top 10" list of industrialized nations whose citizens were victimized by crime.
...
Burglary rates in England and Wales were also among the highest recorded. Australia (3.9 percent) and Denmark (3.1 per cent) had higher rates of burglary with entry than England and Wales (2.8 percent). In the U.S., the rate was 2.6 percent, according to 1995 figures;

"After Australia and England and Wales, the highest prevalence of crime was in Holland (25 percent), Sweden (25 percent) and Canada (24 percent). The United States, despite its high murder rate, was among the middle ranking countries with a 21 percent victimization rate," the London Telegraph said.

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[bmwfreak]

INteresting reading.... I used to have a realistic looking BB gun. A Walther PPK, i think. It fired metal ball bearings, which were dangerous as hell. I got rid of it when a stray shot from my brother hit our window and smashed it.

We dont have that much viiolent crome here in Malaysia... We get our fair share of armed bank robberies and all that, but we too have had problems with terrorist groups, but no where near as severe as those portrayed by the US State Dept or the British Foreign Office.

We probably have more problems with traffic accidents rather than anything else. BUt its interesting to see the US ranked so low.

[666fast]

Thats sad. Who the hell would be scared of a bb gun. They may sting.. but walking in with a steak knife would have about as much a correlation.

Actually, there are a few extremely powerfull BB guns out there. The odds of it killing you are pretty slim, but it doesn't mean it can't happen.
I'm sure when someone has a gun pointed at their face, the last thing they are thinking of is whether or not it's a BB gun!